and he wasn't chained to the chair itself. the chair was not secured to the ground in any way. i start to think to myself, here i am about to interview this guy. i'm knee to knee with the most dangerous man in the state of kentucky. and he's not chained to anything. all of a sudden all of my questions, everything i prepared for the interview, went completely out of my head. >> victor, tell me what, originally what your crime was that brought you to kentucky state penitentiary, how long that sentence is, and then how long of that sentence you have served? >> i'm in for murder. life sentence. convicted in 2001. >> are you proud of that notoriety? i mean, we've heard you are one of the most dangerous guys here. how does that -- >> that's what i hear. i'm actually one of the most laid-back guys here. >> as all officers, i've