budget, for the reconciliation process, which you know, they need a majority in the senate to do. so that's another reason they're going to use it in the campaign, going to be hammering it. it's not all about the presidency. it's also about the senate. the bill does have a lot of taxes in it. that's a real thing. there are significant hundreds of billions of dollars of tax increases in that bill. they're just not the individual mandate. the individual mandate is not a big tax increase. republicans have been saying since the bill passed this is a huge tax increase and they are not wrong that it's a tax increase, but the mandate is not where it's coming from. up until now they haven't gotten traction on that argument. it is complicated, as is evident. is governor mitt romney's talk of repeal and replace a dead end? that's next. [ music playing, indistinct conversations ]