had previously bun done or are the gun laws really, really lax. >> that's a hard time to answer and i spend a lot of time and energy in my reporting trying to determine just that. that's enormous differences in prosecution styles and prosecutorial interpretation of laws in each jurisdiction. now, dave vogt, the group's supervisor of phoenix group seven in his frustration and despair was actually writing in prosecutors in other jurisdictions. they were going as far as new york to see if they could find prosecutors who would take tease cases. and that was described in some congressional testimony by an atf agent named pete forsele. it's hard to say. i think what you have is a perfect storm of incredibly weak laws in arizona, prosecutors who did not seem particularly eager to enforce the law, and an