know, the campaign, the obama campaign has been very confident with the attacks on bain. the outsourcing thing is a whole new leg of this strategy. but when they ran those ads, when they attacked him on bain, i mentioned before, the thing about democratic bedwetters, they said, listen, this is not a strategy that is aimed at the elites in washington, d.c. and new york and boston. it's aimed at these swing states and they have been very confident, their polling show that those ads work and their attacks work, they intend to keep it up, and they're going to keep it up until election day, especially if it keeps showing returns like it seems to be right now in key states with those key voters. >> joy, what seems to be so effective about what the vice president said, is he's talking about outsourcing and romney doing outsourcing, but not when he was in the private sector. doing outsourcing while he was governor, so there he's showing people an example of how, if you elect mitt romney, even to a government post, he may be in a position to continue to outsource american jobs. >> right.