thing is that he brings a contrast to mitt romney in that pawlenty has working class roots. kid from south st. paul, where i used to live many years ago, grew up irish -- or catholic, rather, hockey player, has a lot of regular guy street cred. nice contrast to mitt romney if you're looking at the republican side. >> and if we look back at the debate, this was last june, just a year ago in new hampshire, a cnn debate. john king was pushing pawlenty to what he had previewed the weekend earlier on his attack lines against mitt romney over health care, and you can see in this clip that mitt romney -- that tim pawlenty just wouldn't go there. let's watch. >> your rival is standing right there. if it was obamacare on fox news sunday, why is it not standing here with the governor right there? >> president obama is the person who i quoted in saying he looked to massachusetts for designing his program. he's the one who said it's a blueprint and that he merged the