citizens in the ways that we have seen, it is impossible to conceive of an orderly, political transition that leaves him in power. >> a lot of connection between the russians and syria. china, not so much. the russians just don't seem to be willing to tell him that he needs to go. the president was almost -- i don't want to make any news on this, we still have a lot of talking. >> there was a lot of talk head, and may never be action. we will have to see. what is going on in syria is obscene. he is targeting massive numbers of civilians. i fink he believes that the repression is the way forward. look at what happened to mubarak, khaddafi. he will be completely ruthless. >> with a plane to a european audience tonight? no one wants american aggression tonight. >> he is trying to nudge the russians, and he is trying to, i think, send assurances that he will not get us involved in another shooting war.