record at bain but also his experience of being governor of massachusetts. this has been the subject of an attack by president obama against mitt romney, because mitt romney says, look, i understand how to create jobs, i was in the private sector. when those ideas were put to a test when he was the governor of massachusetts, a candidate back in 2000 it interpreted those results this way -- >> when he was governor they had the third or fourth worst economy of any state in america. the manufacturing jobs left this country at 7%. they left massachusetts at 14%. so, i think people just take a look at his record as governor, and again, as the head of his investment company, he presided over the acquisition of companies that immediately laid off thousands of workers. >> now again your campaign against mitt romney in two,000 2008 is long over. but the substance of your