he's also delivering a kind of vote of no confidence in mitt romney even though he's endorsed him. because i see that as -- it is a bizarre statement for someone if you think -- it's not something you say if you think your party is headed to a great win in november. it's really the kind of thing you hear the morning after an election where you've done very badly. i really wonder what's up with that. >> he's already anticipating a potential loss of mitt romney, should we say? i don't want to put words in your mouth. do you think he's ginning up to that point? >> that's the way i took it. if you're saying we need to race revenues and you -- he also went on to criticize him, you know, quite directly for his immigration, for his really anti-immigrant policies. >> right. >> you know, those are not the kinds of things you do if you are competent in your candidate and you think your party is going to prevail in november. they're really the kinds of thing you do if you're worried you're headed for a great defeat and going to be regrouping in december and january. >> right. let's stick to that point. he's also questioning the gop's approach to immigration. he says romney needs to change