to their country at this point. we need to have a serious conversation right now. >> joan, if this guy romney with limited abilities was about to convince the country he is a regular guy at looking out for regular people which he has never done, that will be one of the great jokes in history. >> well, i think and that is partly what bothered me about pc defend, taking bain capital off the table. it's not that he is a bad man. president obama put it much better, he said his economic experience gives him, you know the background to be a good president and grow the economy, absolutely not that did not happen under mitt romney, bain capital had nothing to do with that and then on embracing donald trump was inexplicable, you can't embrace this man asking our black president to show his papers, you should usher him off the stage and take