caught up in conversations about bogus birth certificates or whether someone's dog should have been strapped to the roof of the car. the country is ailing. the economy is problematic, and we're having, i think, a really good conversation about who among the two of them can best move this country forward when it comes to jobs. i don't think that mitt romney can put part of his record in play. he talks about having been a job creator at bain. he stresses this far more than he does his record as the governor of massachusetts, and, therefore, the totality of that record is all fair game. >> do you believe that most people or many more will see what michael does after hearing the president, his strongest and most clear explanation of why mitt romney's record at bain capital matters. it's not, as he put it, an attack on private equity, it is as we have at the bottom of the screen, what this job is about. >> yeah. i mean, the president is essentially saying that the presidency is about people and private equity is about profits. i think we have really seen over