find that difficult to judge that a failure. so while it may be true the ipo was overpriced, overhyped, excessively laden with expectations that it would go up 20, 30%, you still have a company that created a vision that became an actuality that nearly a billion people are using that has a market cap larger than most companies ever will. >> that's not the heart of what people are asking. all of those things are true but -- >> it is not the heart of what people are asking. i'm trying to point out that it should be the heart of what we're asking. there are very few bright spots in the american economy today. x the innovation that silicon valley and some others have. this was probably overpriced. if you read two months ago about what the valuization should be, it is much closer to what it is trading at today than what it opened at on friday. the mistake on much more on wall street's part, how it valued the company of how invest many bankers tried to get the most money as quickly as possible than it is in my mine an indictment of facebook's business. >> there are some in one of your