around me in war zones are women. it seems like the military is finally catching up to that. what it means in practice, tearing down some of those internal divisions, there are still some folks in command out there who need to be taught about what we can do. >> yeah. so i love that comparison, kim, because, you know, obviously women are right there on the front lines, not only as soldiers, but obviously embedded with our troops, and yet, genevieve and kayla, it feels like the pentagon is behind in simply recognizing women are already there. so both of you have been very near to combat. what does that mean to say you were near to combat since you were officially in combat? >> i think that it is a little confusing for people outside the system to understand the difference. women weren't banned from combat. they're banned from combat jobs and from being assigned to combat units at certain levels. but as you pointed out, over 140 women have died in combat so clearly they were in combat and