says is a depression. he told ed that emerging from the economic downturn is simple and had nothing to do with the kind of cutbacks suggested by presumptive republican presidential nominee mitt romney. take a listen. >> first and foremost, we need more, not less government spending for the time being. we can talk about cutbacks later on, but when you're in a depression, which is what we're in, when you're in a state where the economy is way below capacity, when the biggest problem is, in fact, just not enough jobs out there, now is the time for the government to be spending more. that's a time for the government to be adding to public investment, not slashing it. it's a time to be hiring more schoolteachers, not laying them off. so that's the answer. it's actually amazingly simple. we could, if we could only, you know, if we would only do the right thing, we'd be out of this faster than anyone imagined. >> lean forward with "the ed show" weeknights on msnbc. health news for you this morning, new research has mapped