pennsylvania two years ago, a very small turnout. had there been a more representative turn out,outurno that it would have been different. >> i opened up on the question with media, but leaning forward does not necessarily mean leaning left and i go back in part to joanne's point earlier that we are talking about a majority of the americans for example with support for a social safety net, and only a minority against that and sort of an order to govern in that way, and i do hear you say that journalism and point of view television is a different in that way, but is there a model that we can use to stand very strong on our own positions and ideas and also make space for the realities of governing, and what the does that look like to the folks at the table here? >> well, not on fundamental issues. not that on one hand both sides do it. take social security.