criminality through the sodomy laws although globally, there's still a movement to decriminalize. the sinfulness argument is being waged inside the nominations. and i think that ea's really important. >> that's exactly what's being talked about. and, in fact, frank ain the '50 and '60s fought the subversi subversiveness, as well. >> that that's the last argument left. and because that's a doctrinal argument. that's a faith relationship as opposed to a secular. >> it's also hurting the church to be so antigay. that found that 91% of nonchristians said that the church was antihomosexual. that's the number one issue.