and all americans need to be discussing how these drones need to affect their lives. and we need to set some rules to make sure we don't get in the model that we have of the nuclear path. >> what legal action can the human rights community take? you've done some of the most important work on gone tan moe? what legal action can they take? and is the end game to shut the program down? >> oh, michael, we'll be here all week if you want to know what legal actions we're bringing. and i'd love to go into it. but what we'd love to do is not shut any program down. i'm interested in us having an open discussion with the facts. when the c.i.a. wheezeles the way they did in that clip, then you're not getting the true facts. that's what we want from government first, but from some of these cormss, as well.