>> the one thing that is different, i agree with what mark said. the one thing that is different fwr the dramas is something has to happen at the end of this year. it's not a question. doing nothing is not an option. you have default things that happen. taxes go up. spending gets cut. something has to happen. >> it's great news. >> it is great news. >> that is why i was hopeful when we had the debt ceiling vote coming up. >> they will kick it down the road. >> they actually will need to kick it down the road if they want to get a huge, grand deal. by the way, i remember, for those at home -- >> blurt it out. >> this book, the president's club book -- >> do you love it? >> my god, it's fantastic. it talks about how ex-presidents work with current presidents.