fund to get their apparatus in power to not be regulated. >> i have to disagree on one point. no policy in the obama administration, bought there was a policy under bush. i know, i worked there. >> weren't you there? >> i should have brought my prop. it called the national energy plan. started writing it in january 2001 and launched it in may of 2001. took five months to write. we had recommendations, which included relaxing some of the extreme regulatory environment that was going on at the time, and we had executive and legislative branch prescriptions, for every cycle issue, whether it was conventional uses of energy, nuclear energy, or renewable energy, and we followed that plan to a "t." so we had a plan. >> but i've got to say, this is one of the things that is really hard for me as someone living on the gulf coast. the issue of gas and oil is very much about jobs. about life-style, all those things, and then bp, which will