on the head by saying, when you're dealing with the average american, working and struggling, and paying more taxes than those making 10 and 20 times more than they make, is it fair to them? >> i think you're absolute lit right, what is happening right now is between the buffet plan and ryan plan is how they see two worlds. president obama says i'm making a lot more money than the average american, tax me more. mitt rom any is saying i'm uber rich, tax me less and let's tack the poor so i can get off scott free. what we need to have is an honest conversation about individuals in this country, when they pay taxes, it's an investment in our future, an investment in stimulating our education and infrastructure and investment in our innovation and where we're going in the next 50 years. the fact that the wealthy who