goes from time to time in a circular pattern around the base in oceana. i don't know which operation they were engaged in at the time of the crash but everybody that lives around the jet base knows there's noise, frequent air traffic, and for most, you're right. it becomes part of the culture of your life and the sound of freedom that you just understand is part of the price of having an incredibly well trained, patriotic military. >> we're still going to wait on details coming to us from the ground about what took place there at the mayfair mews. governor box mcdonnell, thank you. we appreciate it. >> thank you. and our thoughts and prayers are certainly with those people that are there now and i think all the resources are being brought to bear to bring this to as safe a conclusion as possible. i appreciate being on with you. coming up, a military board rules a marine sergeant should be discharged for posting