followers had an unexpected answer to his problems. >> at that point, i had no idea that they were ever going to ask me or try and change me, you know, it seems that jesus said to come as you are. it doesn't say come and change who you are. it says come as you are. i never dreamed in my wildest dreams that they would want to change me back into a guy because what does that have to do with spirituality? >> and these movies that always tell us what we believe -- >> but pastor bob coy argues differently. >> i would submit that god identified our sexuality, male and female, at the point of conception, and at that point, he's the one who says, this is what i have designed you to be. and i'm not here to tell other people how they should live unless they want to be a christian. and then christians would use the bible as a guide book and