oil to get out of the ground is deep water, ultra deep water like the horizon incident in bp, way down, that's $35 a barrel to get out. you can realize why somebody in 2005 would be able to sane front of a senate committee, a ceo of a major company would be able to say once oil prices go above $45, we're good, we don't need any more subsidies. there's no reason for them to provide them, especially since 2005, we're up 2 1/2 times the price of oil where we were back then. >> the point is the cost of this remains fairly fixed if you're extracting oil and expensive difficult to extract oil like deep water coming in at a value far below what oil is trading at. you just profit. >> yes. >> you call yourself a manufacturer, apply for a manufacturer tax credit and the idea to incentivize to off source manufacturing.