a couple of years later, he is one of the richest guys on the face of the earth. >> and we still don't know the impact really, willie. it's so new, so young. we see the privacy issues. we talked about it on this program before. what's going on with facebook and how it powers so many other zinga, you know, the game companies, the music businesses, all of these other things. facebook is in its infancy. but people told him no. got mad at him at harvard. he dropped out. he left and did it his way. and it's hard to do that, but that's what the real successes come from. >> we don't know if facebook is going to be with us five years from now, but we do know amazon is. number four, really quickly, amazon is just swallowing up everything. >> and i think jeff bezos doesn't get his due, because it is the online superstore of america. and they sell everything now. but one thing people don't know, they power so many other businesses. they do the back office stuff and the software for a lot of other online businesses.