making trips out of state a lot more. >> so they believe the etch-a-sketch that's important he's going to erase all this right wing stuff he's done the last year or so to win the nomination and go back and reset, to use his aide's guy, fernstrom, reset back to moderation. >> what's the name of place in jamaica plain, doyle's? >> yes, doyle's we hang out at, yes. >> i went to doyle's back in the day when mitt romney was on the rise, and the sense there that you got was he's to the right of bill weld, okay, but not that much. >> right. >> bill weld was a really moderate. >> somewhere around scott brown. >> yeah, okay, and that was thes sense, and that was how republicans -- >> a little to the left of scott brown. >> that was how republicans were going to rise in massachusetts by being moderate republicans in a democratic -- >> like ed brooks. >> -- in a democratic state. they weren't talking about mitt romney as a red state, white