to him, which is the base of the party. >> they're conservative party, they are not going to no, ma'am market their if the opportunity provides itself in an open convention, not going to nominate a moderate massachusetts governor. >> funny listening to these guys, saying what they wish were the case but happens not to be the case f i'm a weak front runner, what does that make newt gingrich? >> wow, governor, it seems like they never read ronald reagan's 11th commandment. >> no, they sure haven't. all of this is obviously going to -- wounds opened here won't heal entirely come november and that's plus for us it is a plus for president obama. but remember, al, you and very had this discussion, once the convention speeches are given, it's sort of a reset, not entirely and some of this baggage will still exist, but the american people, by and large, really start to focus at that convention nominating speech and whoever the nominee is will have an opportunity to sort of get back on track a little bit. again, some of these wounds won't heal and the obama folks are very smart. david axelrod is one of the