with the roll out of the movie this cemented a new wisdom about the choice of palin was a disaster. i don't think that was a consensus narrative before hand. i think you and steve schmidt had been talking about from insider perspective some of the problems but i'm not sure republicans by and large believed you before and they do now much. >> there was debate this question about loyalty and in politics, loyalty means keeping the secrets of the people that you serve. but i think that when loyalty an and honesty collide, and when loyalty means keeping secrets such as the ones about how fundamentally off base the decision was to pick someone about whom we knew nothing, i think it is different than -- washington is a town where there is a new tell-all out once a