southern. he's got a way to go. maybe he can, i don't know, i guess it's too late in tennessee to start rooting for vanderbilt, but he's got to do something to show he's got some way of dealing with people that seems a lot more authentic. and i don't know, i'm just catching up overnight to all this talk about newt gingrich flirting with rick perry and vice versa, talking about a ticket already. that seems a lot premature. but i guess they're trying to do -- you've been seeing e-mails floating back and forth on the perry people praising gingrich. >> rick perry? >> yeah, this was a late night, overnight development. willie, bear me out. >> the gingrich campaign denies it, but there were talks they were creating what they call a super ticket with newt gingrich at the top and rick perry as the vice president. >> what country? >> the campaign -- >> seriously. >> yes. yes. >> steve schmitt, what's it like watching this?