will make them more docile and can't tell truth from the falsity. >> he's saying the president of the united states wants people to be indoctrinated and wants to take people away from their faith. i find that absoluteoutrageous. does his type of rhetoric work with any religious group in the country or any time of believer out there? >> there are people who hate universities, they hate critical thinking. that is the idea you balance certain issues against one another, you make thoughtful decisions, because they are afraid that if you start to think critically, you might not believe everything you hear like from the very right wing politicians that they hope you vote for. and i'll tell you i was at the national religious broadcasters convention when i joined from you nashville, there are a lot of people there sitting in those seats when i was having a debate about hate speech on campuses,