>> well, no. he's saying he's not going to fund it. so what do you do? you take places that are on their way up, you take them over ksz and then you start touting these numbers that aren't true. twice as much support. at best, the turnaround schools give three months of extra support. three months of growth at best. >> here's more from former chief of staff of president obama rahm e emanuel. >> change is hard, but watching year in and year out kids capture in a system that's failing is harder. >> what's your response to that? >> he is absolutely right, but this is not change. this is the same old status quo policy that we've been under for the last 15 years. and it doesn't work! it is a failed policy. it's chicago public schools' failed policy and they have xmroited this madness to the rest of the country.