clearly i'm not a great fan of the payroll tax holiday, but the middle class needs a tax break but at the same time we cannot forget that long term unemployment in this country is very, very high, and we also need to make sure we don't cut drastically the reimbursement rate for doctors who serve medicare patients. >> back to the budget for a moment, i have to say i thought it would have been a bigger number now that we will be winding down. i thought it would be six or seven trillion instead of four. when you saw that number, what was your reaction? >> the president's budget is a recommendation to congress, that is all it. we have to go from here and i agree with you, i think with the infrastructure that is crumbling, potential to create over a period of time millions of decent paying jobs, roads, bridges, rebuilding the rail system, water systems, et cetera, we should make a very very heavy investment and i think the president has put money in energy conservation and