>> that's correct. you know, it's easier to do it backwards. >> easier? >> sure. come on. i had -- i -- i had two guys from microsoft investing almost $10 million in four months. >> but they would have invested it legitimately. >> i understand that, but i couldn't be legitimate. i didn't know how. >> maybe he really didn't. jim rowe told us about cons stretching back almost two decades all across the country. in massachusetts, a job driving a truck for a lumberyard turned into an embezzlement scheme. >> i think the total is $22,000 they came up with. i think it was a lot more than that. >> in colorado he got a job drilling water wells, and soon his foreman was giving him money. >> i think bob invested somewhere in the neighborhood of $40,000 to $45,000. i don't remember the exact amount. >> he worked at a machine shop near san diego as head of quality control. quality control of what? >> precision machine parts.