development. to harvesting the crops for growth. what that is, what the navy is doing now is connecting the dots with our military. when the military goes green, guess what? america is going to start going green. >> do you agree with that, john? >> i do. i think there's going to be a continued focus on doing what they can with the limited funds that they have available to them. if we could marshall our forces, dylan, the way nasa did in the '60s to go to the moon, if we could have a plan to go forward where we'd come together, putting it all together in a way that it all works, what military people bring to the energy industry is knowledge acquisition and the other is discipline. energy is a dangerous business. no matter what form you're talking about, you need discipline and knowledge acquisition.