of the fact so many roughly my age, perhaps a bit younger is out there leading the fight. secondly, governor newsome, out there way ahead of all of us, although i thought you were too far out in the old days, which is like eight years ago, i have caught up to you, sir, you deserve all the credit for being out there. >> absolutely. absolutely. >> what's it like to be able to talk about an issue, governor? the mainstream? >> it is good to be mainstream and, you know exremember, 70% of americans opposed interracial marriage in 1967 when the u.s. supreme court adjudicated in favor of disbanding those 18 -- rather 16 states that denied it, much further along in that debate. >> congratulations, gentlemen. david boies and lieutenant governor newsome from california. let me finish with the government's right to protect public health and a religion's right to practice what it preaches. this is a tough one. you are watching "hardball," only on msnbc. o dist. it's real milk full of calcium and vitamin d. and tastes simply delicious.