for example, we know it's not the same republican party that participated in the 1964 civil rights movement because there was something called the southern strategy. remember that. remember strom thurmond and all the dixiecrats were very much opposed to the civil rights movement, the civil rights bill. where did they find comfort? in the republican party. and we know what johnson said. we may have done the right thing in passing the '65 voting rights act, but we'll lose the south because it's going to go republican. but he didn't bring that up as far as the history. >> the dixiecrats left the democratic party. there were racists in the democratic party. >> that's right. >> but they went and found refuge in the republican party. but then let me ask you this, alex. this whole food stamp thing that they are using -- well, let me show you the exchange tyler and i had on the food stamp