he's an experienced campaigner. and yet, he's doing things now that seem out of kilter. >> well, no, i think there is a rationale behind it. the language that he uses, saul alinsky, i happen to know who he is because i covered some of his organizations in chicago, the sort of code language, he's speaking to the conservative bloggers out there. they know who saul olin ski is if you look at the conservative blog chatter every day, you'll see the things he's making reference, too. that's a real angry bunch. that's who voted for him in florida, the most conservative voters that probably identified themselves with the exit polls. and the people who were just very conservative or moderately conservative voted for mitt romney. so i think newt is trying to firm up his base in order to carry him through some states that he is not likely to win. >> indeed.