worried about their industry because we're not going to the moon anymore. what he said is nuts and crazy and all that stuff, but -- >> but who did he offend? >> nobody's offended, but -- >> mars! >> the people who are offended are the people who know that we can't pay for that, and that it's all just empty talk. you know, conservatives like to talk about the deficit, but we're going to launch a new program to the moon? that's goofy. >> but this is a political pivot, because obama's shuttered the space program and a lot of republicans are upset about that for exactly the reasons that ari is discussing, that nostalgia for that exploration time. this is a direct response, i think to obama -- >> but it is worth mentioning in "the new yorker" story that brian lizza has up, president obama says, "as president, i will establish a robust and balanced space program that will lead in cob fronting the challenges we face here on earth." when he says that, i keep wanting mr. sulu to come on and