in -- >> who won that game? >> donny, we've got to catch up. it's 2012. >> go giants. >> and candle stick's terrible because of what? >> they had two crooked roads to get in and then it's very crowded, the seats are not very comfortable, and wind and rain comes in on a regular basis. it can be a clear day everywhere else, but it rains in candle stick park. >> when they played baseball out there in the middle of the summer. >> 1962, stu miller got blown off the mound during the game. >> bob woodward, how do you think the president did last night? >> you know, if i -- just a little context, i was thinking how the persuadable voter might look at last night and the nbc debate this week because the persuadable voter, somebody who is not decided is independent. and it starts kind of with the gingrich routine the other night