there is a conservative contract here is he was not a lobbyist. is there anything we can tell, like who he was reporting to at freddie mac who could explain how he was functioning at their organization? >> funny you should ask. yes, we can. the contract, the first page, shows he was reporting to the director of public policy for freddie mac, a man by the name of craig thomas, who, in fact, was one of freddie mac's top lobbyists. so the consulting work that newt gingrich was doing was for the freddie mac top lobbyist, but gingrich insists it did not consist of lobbying. actually, if you read closely the lobbying disclosure law and how it defines lobbying activities, it does say lobbying activity consists of work in preparation for lobbying or work as background material that's intended to help lobbying. so i think, again, the fact that he was reporting to a freddie