can democrats compete with that? >> i think so, but i think we can compete with bay slick -- basically with people power. financially, obviously the democrats will have to be competitive, this is a race for the governor of the state of wisconsin but this race is essentially a nation-wide race, with implications. republican governors are taking note today and looking at the signatures that were turned in against governor walker. we tend to think money will flow in from both sides to support both candidates whoever the democrat ends up being but make no mistake we're looking $100 million race in the end. i think it will be in the super pacs will come in with money from the corporations and so on and so forth, but you can't argue, rachel, a million people signed a petition to recall a governor who has been in office for one year and a week. that says a lot. >> wisconsin democratic state senator john erpenbach, i should note pointedly not closing out the possibility he might be one of the democrats to run against governor walker, senator, great to have you here, thank you for being here tonight, appreciate