at first, i was hoping that it was kind of a cat-and-mouse game, that they had a suspect. but it -- but it kind of hurt. you know? like i said, i had the power. i was a law enforcement officer, technically, and here i am, these law enforcement officers are trying to do their -- my duty. so, it kind of hurt a little bit. >> but before long, rader, in his self-obsessed arrogance, was talking up a storm. and says in this interview with the psychologist, he actually was having a good time connecting to the police officers. >> during the interrogation, it seems as though you were enjoying being one of them at times, almost like colleagues talking shop. >> camaraderie. camaraderie. yeah. we talked shop. i know a lot of police terminology. i know how they do things. so, yeah, it's kind of a bonding-type thing. >> did you enjoy it on any level? >> yes, i did.