i'm telling you, you're a lot more popular than you think you are. people watch this show. >> popular? not true. [ cheers and applause ] >> i'm good with my popularity level. >> that shows just how popular he is. >> you raise a lot of money in small amounts when you come on the show. >> look, i need to be heard. i miss the debates, i didn't mean to criticize them. i think if you look at who should be in the debate, how about a guy with a record? how about a guy with experience? how about a guy who thinks we need fair trade with china? not unfair trade. how about a guy who thinks of the job of a president is to stand up for the working people and small businesses of america? you talked about obama being absent, not in touch. you know why? he's out raising $1 billion, joe. he doesn't have time to talk to