protecting their husband and protecting the image. >> but i read in the book about how she wanted to go more aggressive on health care? >> more in messaging and what you're not feeling as if the way they were going about it, which was going the back room way, which was the wrong influence. but this book is really exposed. it's being framed as the east wing versus the west wing. but someone who was brought in -- remember when she was brought in in the fall of '07 as the eyes and ears of michelle obama. this tension has been there with the senior folks who went from the campaign to the white house. that tension never went away. whatever happened, it never went away. what you're seeing in the book is score settling, which in talking to other people who talked to jo day canter, says it didn't look good. >> explain it to the public. why it matters that there's been