so huntsman can go after romney. i think for all of these reasons, mitt romney's going to have a difficult time at these debates. and the question is, will he get testy as he's known to do. >> mark haleprin, in the end, it all comes down to math and these moderates are going to vote for mitt romney. and if you want to get from 8% to 11% or 11% to 15%, you are fighting for the same conservative votes in the same pot. that's -- people haven't been avoiding mitt romney because they're scared of him or because they like him, they've been avoiding him because they know they're not going to get his votes. how is that going to change this weekend? >> sets up very well for mitt romney. as you say they all want in theory, they recognize they must go after mitt romney. now or never. but they're still competing with each other to be the romney alternative. you saw yesterday, newt gingrich was asked by a voter, how do you compare yourself to rick