santorum can pull off a surprise showing but just too late and the state too moderate? >> i don't think it is a state too moderate. there are a lot of conner is vat i was in new hampshire who are looking for the alternative to romney. >> and what 64% catholic, 60, 64%? >> 60% catholic. of course, santorum is catholic. there are a lot of single issue voters in new hampshire, even though it is the second least religious state in the country, there are a lot of conservatives turn out on primary day who are going to be looking for that candidate who can be a movement conservative and alternative to romney. there's been a lot of disenchantment with romney this cycle and even though his polling numbers have stayed high, those polls tend to shrink as we get closer to tuesday. >> so, what do you think about these weekend debates? look, we saw how much these debate does shape the early part of this contest, you know, first we thought whether there's too many of them and then people were really paying attention, could this be an opportunity, including on "meet the press" this weekend, for rick santorum to sort of make a first