evangelical voters. a lot more very conservative voters. not as much in new hampshire. a bit more moderate folks. that's the reason why you have mitt romney being endorsed today by john mccain who is more of an independent, moderate up in new hampshire. so all of these republicans on the conservative side think that south carolina can be their fire wall. rick perry thinks it can be his fire wall. newt gingrich, the problem that they have is that if they are all competing, we could have a very similar result that we saw in iowa in which newt gingrich, santorum trul and rick perry end up dividing that conservative vote which would allow mitt romney to get a win out of south carolina. something he wasn't able to do four years ago. >> and romney has been endorsed by the governor, nicky healy of that state. but handicapped that state for him in your opinion for romney. >> it will be a very tough state. just like iowa was. but all of a sudden, 20%, 25% is all you need to be able to win there, it is very doable for mitt romney. so that is his strategy all