may prove to be worse in the end that we're crawling out so slowly. as your graphic showed, we've made progress but not very much progress on this jobs gap. >> and what's the reason for that? >> well, i think there are -- there's no short answer to that. one is the ruination of the financial system which has made borrowing and credit very difficult to do. one is the sheer depth. another is the running out -- i don't want to say running out but the using up of all the heavy artillery by the federal reserve and needing more. now they are down to light machine gunfire and, you know, they are headed for bebe guns. you know, they will do everything that they can, and finally, contrary to what a lot of people think, the relative timidity of fiscal stimulus relative to the problem. it was big in an absolute scale, but the problem was enormous. >> and something people neeo to understand because the republicans typically attack, you know, the socialist obama-like stimulus, but mainstream economists really on both sides would say that the --