turned to newt in florida. there's that possibility. >> let me piggyback -- >> that means chaos ensues. >> right. so who would be your father's second choice? >> describe him. >> i think my dad -- >> it's the voter -- >> i was talking about my dad for those that don't know the back story, my dad always at the end went for solid establishment type figures from gerald ford through john mccain. >> right. >> when i was saying john mccain, he's not conservative! and he's a war hero. i don't know who my dad would vote for second. >> three people you can rule out -- >> you know what? and probably not jon huntsman because he couldn't relate to jon huntsman either. >> i don't think we can rule out perry, gingrich, or huntsman at this point. >> you know what? you say perry. he'd say, i kind of like that perry guy. i kind of like him. >> definitely. >> you're right.