here. >> when we're interested in a specific area, we know who the players are. we have information. we have intelligence. the jail is such a fluid place where we have 10,000 people there a day that are coming and going with great fluidity that our intelligence that we get out of there is as timely as you're ever going to get. >> we'll get a call from one of the guys that's on that gang intelligence unit down at the jail and they'll say, hey, you know what, conrad, i've got a guy that can give you information about an operation that's going on out there, illegal operation, narcotics-type operation. and we'll use that person to get a search warrant and then we'll hit that area. >> when we hit the house, they never know who's the rat, who's the one that turned on them. this stuff comes out of the jail all the time. >> we need some of their own guys to catch them. that's what it boils down to.