25% during this primary. if he stays steady at where he is right now head to head with the president in the general election, he loses. >> he could easily win though. >> do you think so? >> oh, yes. i think gingrich could win, too. in our system, any time a major party nominates a candidate, they get a mantle of respectability. no matter what their background is. and they are suddenly elevated. and this will be a competitive race. >> the moirt surrounds them, supports them and resources them. >> i'm not saying they'll beat obama. but the idea that either one of them is unelectable i would reject. >> can i throw one thing into the blix? first, it will be a competitive race. when you think that all that the president has to do to win is hold the states that he and john kerry both won and pick up florida where he leads both romney and gingrich. and you throw in that they've taken positions that are so far outside the main stream. the classic example was earl on in the debates when they were