>> i saw that. >> therein lies the great challenge for mitt romney to say i'm the true blue conservative leader. >> and again, that's the question harold is asking. how does the base make its decisions? do they make it on conservativeness? or do they make it on ability to win? >> that's one of the questions they'll have to answer. i understand joe's point about conservative versus nonconservative, or the moderate versus the conservative. but if you think about george w. bush in 2000, he ran his campaign on being a compassionate conservative, not leaving any child behind. so he tried to position himself as that. on the second note, that ron paul, one of the reasons he's been so consistent in the polls, i was with a prominent republican yesterday that outlined the thesis that each of the candidates have to have. ron paul has been the one candidate with the most consistent thesis throughout. he's a libertarian, a proud one, taken on the fed, certain policies, he's not wavered at